£95,000-a-year benefits family of 12 re-homed in a £1,000-a-week house

05/09/2010 9:48 pm

I am  in total agreed with one hundred per cent - cut it off after the second child .

I love it when they also come out with well I am in a two bedroom property and now my mum and dad and new wife and ex amount of children now live in the property and we want a big property.

06/09/2010 0:16 am

No. Try again. Sticking to topic, can any lefties really come up with one decent reason why child benefit should be unrestricted and unlimited given the global population problem?

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release08Jul10.htm

"Singapore is the world’s most overpopulated state, followed by Israel and Kuwait, according to a new league table ranking countries by their degree of overpopulation. The UK is 17th in the table....A UK citizen, for example, has an average ecological footprint of 6.12 global hectares but because of the size of the population, their “share” of national biocapacity is only 1.58 global hectares. This gives the UK a self-sufficiency rating of 25.8 per cent – the proportion of its footprint it derives from its own resources –and a corresponding dependency rating of 74.2 per cent. If it had to rely on its own biocapacity, the UK could therefore sustain only a quarter of its population – around 15 million – and, at current consumption levels, is “overpopulated” by more than 45 million"

06/09/2010 10:39 am

ILAG you must be massivly naive to believe everything you read in the papers...especially such as obviously right wing and bias publication which is so widely laughed at as sensationalist and alarmmist, playing on people's pre-existing prejudices.

You already know this, but as the DM fits your angry "out with the forigener" chant you are happy to ignore its ridiculously obvious shortcomings. As long as it brings you some confort whilst trapped in you flat.

06/09/2010 11:09 am

The likely suspects this time were not BME, so would fall under the 'Feral Tenant' description in 'ILAG speak'. Kev is spot on that ILAG reads only what supports his own world view.

It is notable the extent of condemnation and hatred held for fellow human beings, that seems to rest behind so many of ILAG's contributions. Are these really the views of the people of Islington, of leaseholders, of Britain? Do we live in a sceptred British Isle or sceptic Ilag Isle?

06/09/2010 11:22 am

There is remarkable similarity between the posts of Progressive Solutions Required, Kev Dupree and the catechism according to Socialist Worker Party.

Most readers would need explanation about the SWP since its never got any electoral representation, has now given up on obtaining that representation - after abandoning infiltration of the Labour party - and meets in a tent at the Hendon turn-off of the North Circular on the third Sunday of every month.

06/09/2010 11:31 am

I'd like to add the "remarkable similarity" is likley due to the fact you post such ridiculous views and laughable facts, i expect mine and PSRs views are representative of the vast majority.

Also thanks for the SWP explination, i haven't heard of them before, except when you try and hurl "lefty" insults. I'm still unsure who/what they are but don't really care.

06/09/2010 12:52 pm

Listen Kev NotaSpart the source for ILAG's contribution was a site called optimumpopulation.org. or something similar.

The source therefore wasn't ILAG.  The views therefore were not ILAG's. Gettit.

It might help you to understand that  one of the drivers of modern economics is the idea of scarce resources and some of the early thinkers - Malthus and Keynes - thought that population was a factor in the equation (Well, stone me, I'd have never thought of that).

Now where was I?  Ah yes, here you roll out your intellectual heff.

"I'd like to add the "remarkable similarity" is likley due to the fact you post such ridiculous views and laughable facts, i expect mine and PSRs views are representative of the vast majority.

Also thanks for the SWP explination, i haven't heard of them before, except when you try and hurl "lefty" insults. I'm still unsure who/what they are but don't really care."

There's the small matter of May's election, not forgetting Blair's book, which have comprehensively put your views in a minority of a minority.

As my mom used to say: "Go and read a book".

06/09/2010 1:15 pm

"It might help you to understand that  one of the drivers of modern economics is the idea of scarce resources and some of the early thinkers - Malthus and Keynes - thought that population was a factor in the equation"

Thanks for "helping me understand" by simply naming two famous economists. You don't seem to have made a point. Obviously population is a major factor in economics but my point is to state that the UK is overpopulated by 45million and needs to return to the population we had in 1850 is so naiive it is amazing.

06/09/2010 1:44 pm

Listen Kev NotaSpart and NotaBrain get yourself over the optimumpopulation website and take a look.

For your information, one of the world's saints, Sir David Attenborough, is a patron.

Now tell readers here you think Sir David is a numpty for the same reason you slagged off ILAG.

06/09/2010 2:02 pm

Please do come back with the date, time and posting subject where I quoted Keynes, approvingly or otherwise.