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Democracy versus the Individual

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13/09/2010 2:14 pm

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Chris Webb

Chris Webb

Location: South East England
Posts: 224

16/09/2010 11:08 am

Dawinism versus Social-collectivism - an interesting abstract Melvin.

Others - I detest violence, hence objecting to Trident and other weapons of mass destruction, racism and social discrimination.

I also rarely yell, stamp my foot, or throw my dummy out of the pram. I am not a supporter of the Labour Party and voted Liberal at the last election, as the best means to achieving social progress - hence my lot did not lose in any greater sense than anyone else lot accept the BNP who lost very badly indeed (but then racist bigots do make a lot of noise, little sense, may look attractive for a while until people see the claws behind the little pussy cat exteriors - yes they lost big time and you can read their frustration through many an anonymous post)

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Mike Batt

Mike Batt

Posts: 193

16/09/2010 11:29 am

Carefull what you say about the 'Countryside Alliance' NonnyNonny.

They are the only protest group I know who are (legally) armed.

ILAG it seems you are (technically) aligned with PSR... I'm not sure who will be more upset.

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Chris Webb

Chris Webb

Location: South East England
Posts: 224

17/09/2010 2:27 pm

ILAG falsely claims a Tory General Election victory as justification for the punishment of the poor, needy and defenceless, yet refuses to see the victorious administration running his local council as having a valid mandate to do so. Do we ever hear an explanation of this hypocrisy?

Is it a self identification that causes ILAG to automatically associate direct action with violence?

And of course, the primacy of the media is mute.

Few have had a view on democracy - which is sad.

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Anonymous

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17/09/2010 3:09 pm

PSR, isn't it a bit "sixth-form" to ponder the legitimacy of the primacy of national government over local?  If not, why don't you give us your take, instead of waiting for others to do so and provide you with a target? 

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Chris Webb

Chris Webb

Location: South East England
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17/09/2010 7:22 pm

I believe that power should be as close to the individual as possible, enabling concensus and common will to be the force that directs those matters closest to peopled lives. A tiered approach with delegated representation through to a national assembly is better placed to determine regional through to national strategic concerns, but by being comprised of locally elected delegates then the local argument is stronger.

I think you'll find the answer to all three propositions there - now no doubt you will tear me apart without ever getting around to stating a positive or constructive debate response.

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Owen Hart

Owen Hart

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17/09/2010 7:52 pm

PSR: "I believe that power should be as close to the individual as possible, enabling concensus and common will to be the force that directs those matters closest to peopled lives"

Sound a bit like David Cameron's New Localism then? Like your idol Nick Clegg, I can see you have now seen the light then?!!

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Chris Webb

Chris Webb

Location: South East England
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17/09/2010 8:00 pm

Hello ILAG - It never dimmed in my view - the means of implementation is the differing position with Cameronism. Clegg - idol - ehm, you sure those words can go together. I'd rather have a t-shirt based on the American health campaign under the slogan 'not luvin it any more' (English libel laws prohibit the publication of the name of the fast food chain that is the subject of the campaign) ;-)

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Mike Batt

Mike Batt

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22/09/2010 8:36 am


Hey 11:00 am Nonnynonny. You are a numpty.

PSRs lot actually won...

I think the passion for revolution or even mild mass action is lacking right now as the nation is on its uppers due to the profligate spending of the Blair/Brown era.

A free vote on fox hunting however will kick off more protest than housing ever will...

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