Housing Benefit cap
13/02/2012 9:05 am
I'm a bit slow when it comes to figuers so was wondering if someone could explain a couple of details about the cap.
Firstly, thousands of families will be made homeless by the cap which affects people claiming housing benefit. Is it the case that people that are in work but on a low income who might receive a smaller amount of housing benefit simply to cover a shortfall will be far less affected?
Secondly, when David Cameron talks about families getting £26,000 or more in benefits - isn't it the case that a large amount of that money goes directly to private sector landlords, especially in London where rents are far too high?
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13/02/2012 10:27 am
Working families will face reductions in the LHA and incresing rents. They may also fall foul of the extra room tax, and if under 35 the significant reduction in benefit for that age group.
Working families who do not have full time work (and lets face it the bulk of jobs growth under the last years of Labour has been carried on under the Tories - low wage short hour retail and fast food outlet jobs) face massive losses under the benefit cuts for tax credits on top of the verious tenant related cuts and additional charges.
Families on full benefit will be losing through the cap, but working families look set to lose even greater proportions of thier income - unless of course they are fortunate to have secure employment and an above average wage.
As for the last point mrkfm, you are absolutely correct, but the government refuse to restrict those rents, nor provide affordable social housing as an alternative. Where people unable to afford the Tory rents are meant to live I'm not sure, but the lie from Shapps that forcing out those on benefit is because it is unfair to working people who can not afford to live there as the motivation is exposed by the fact that working people are on benefit, and even the average waged can not afford the city rents.
13/02/2012 10:36 am
Ladies/gent this has been done to death over on the thread started by Rick about the level of the cap. Clearly this is going to decend into another Conservative bashing thread.
13/02/2012 10:52 am
But shouldn't we be tough on those who cause so much strife, so much harm, so much disquiet, especially when they need not do so. If the Cap is Tory good let the Tories explain how it improves life for the working poor, or how it prevents private landlords continuing to abuse the taxpayer.
13/02/2012 11:23 am
Thanks F451. That's very useful for my debate with my MP.
I'm sure we can all carry on the more philosophical debate about who is evil etc on other threads..
13/02/2012 4:01 pm
Do press your MP on the point that turfing out the existing tenant does not make the home anymore affordable to a family that can not afford to rent in the area. Only rent capping can do that, unless of course people will be offered higher earnings to match housing cost increases in future.
Who's the MP and can we come and watch?
13/02/2012 4:42 pm
Last time I named him my comment didn't appear on here for some reason but he's a lib dem MP in London and he doesn't like discussing facts/research etc.
He has however stopped arguing that rents would drop, and dropped his argument about "subsiding" people out of work.
the debates are taking place in the local papers and his only reply to my last letter was to state that I do not understand how big the deficit is. I replied reminding him that it is because the deficit is so big we shouldn't be implementing policies that will cost the taxpayer more but he ignores these things.
The reason I started highlighting my concerns in the press is because he refused to respond to specific questions I asked which quoted evidence from various sources. This is the difference between the Commons and the Lords. The Lords may be undemocratic amongst other things but they consider the evidence.
13/02/2012 5:55 pm
Does the MP explain how paying higher amounts of LHA to private landlords through restriciting the availability of cheaper social housing through Right to Buy (even if it is replaced then it will be at 80%MR so for higher HB) can help reduce the deficit when it is increasing total benefit costs, decreasing the amount of disposable income people have and so depleating growth?
Perhaps he can also explain how scrapping the development and regeneration funds, stalling building, losing jobs and contracts, and resulting in the wiorst building output ever, has addressed the deficit.
Perhaps the MP would care to explain how cuts for the poorest and boosts for the richest does anything to reduce the inequalities that led to the financial crisis - or perhaps paying Millions to advisors on how to encourage the poor to get by on less is justified.
Oh the fun you must have with the urchin - what a shame the MP is so shy.
27/04/2012 11:56 am
Did the MP ever acknowledge how the policies that he supports would not lead to rent reductions but would instead lead to the mass displacement of the poor?
It would be interesting now those things have come to pass if the MP in question has accepted his error and is now willing to change argument.