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Housing Benefit Capped

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27/10/2010 10:03 am

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Anonymous

Anonymous

27/10/2010 11:16 am

It will be more than 20,000 people in my opinion but the majority will be effected by less than £10 per week.

Maybe they will have to cut back on Stella and Superkings...

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Anonymous

Anonymous

27/10/2010 12:09 pm

You can buy 24 cans of lager in tesco for £10.  It's cheaper than china tea.

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Anonymous

Anonymous

27/10/2010 12:32 pm

........but it's probably canned fresh from the mens loo LOL

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Cinnamon

Cinnamon

Posts: 24

27/10/2010 12:56 pm

Are we having a serious debate, or just a pop at the less fortunate?

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Junior

Junior

Posts: 649

27/10/2010 1:15 pm

Here here Cinnamon

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Anonymous

Anonymous

27/10/2010 1:28 pm

It's carling so I do not mind from which loo is coming from.

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Sidney Webb

Sidney Webb

Location: South East England
Posts: 224

27/10/2010 4:41 pm

I wonder how many similarly flippant pranksters are lying in unmarked graves across the world with the last thought in mind 'but I thought they were going to only murder the others!'

Surprise no-names, unless you are part of the elite they will get to destroying you too given long enough - that is what happens when the group being denegrated is derided by the rest of society. Patience fellow citizen, your turn is surely as close as Pickles is round.

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Anonymous

Anonymous

27/10/2010 7:03 pm

PSR - Pickles is not round, hes just very very portly!!

Junior - its projected that more than 80,000 families or about 200,000 people will have to leave London alone due to the caps on HB the cuts to HB and the overall benefit cap of £500pw.

There are currently 4.7m HB claims and all 4.7m of them will be adversely affected by the new 30th percentile rate. That can be estimated to be over 10,000,000 people affected nationally.

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Location: Islington
Posts: 7

27/10/2010 10:11 pm

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Chris

Chris

Location: All over the place
Posts: 283

28/10/2010 9:30 pm

Many British citizens have a foreign heritage and many more were not born within our shores. For instance, Cliff Richard was not born in the UK, Mr Portillo and Mr Windsor are notable foreigners - should they be deported too ILAG?

I believe Mr Churchill was slightly foreign, and I'm told Boris is historically foreign. Did you not say that both you and your partner have a little foreigner in you too. More for the Hercules ILAG?

By the way - the RAF can not lend the government planes as the government own them, purchased with taxpayer funds, just like the nuclear deterrant that isnt and the aircraft carriers that arent.

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kass

kass

Posts: 629

28/10/2010 10:13 pm

Son of Ilag

Yet again more xenophobia from the Mail... I wonder what the mail would gone about calloing this family if they where white brits...

As white brits cannot be deported I wonder what the solutions would have been. 

Does the article tell its readers that this family did not set the rules for housing and did not have any say in how local authorities and social landlords go about their business in dealing with them?

Why this family is presented as a scandal, when the scandal is the social housing system itself, in which residents have no real power or say whatsoever?

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Location: Islington
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29/10/2010 7:36 am

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Matt Murdock

Matt Murdock

Posts: 73

29/10/2010 9:37 am

Oh Son of ILAG, come out of the bunker and smell the fresh air! It's really not so bad here in the real world you know!

Asylum seekers account for a miniscule proportion of the population so their effect on the overall economic and social housing position is negligble.

I think the point CW was making is that a number of those he referred to may not have been British under the current immigration systems as their forbears wouldn't have been allowed in the country. That's certainly the case for Churchill who, under any recent government, would not have been born as his mother would not have met the current criteria for admission.

However, that's history. Anyone who believes in the Daily Mail really deserves all the paranoia they get.

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Rick Campbell

Rick Campbell

Location: Macclesfield CHESHIRE
Posts: 416

29/10/2010 11:34 am

Perhaps I am being naive but as far as I know, and will accept being corrected, but we are all from a small planet called Earth.

I am unaware of a planet called ILAG or one which appears to be called Anonymous or is it Annoy Mouse where the creatures that populate those planets apparently have no identity or maybe just want to hide behind a nickname.

I know there are some human beings who call themselves anonymousfor a variety of reasons but even some of them are readers of the Daily Xenophobia!

Our planet is tiny and it appears some strange chappie called Boris seems to think his chums Dave and Mini Me want to exterminate not only social housing but also the occupiers thereof.

Mans' inhumanity to Man?

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Anonymous

Anonymous

29/10/2010 12:26 pm

Well ILAG I hope that you or your family are never desperately in need of the help of others.

To flee a country where you or your family are at risk of rape, torture and death is not an easy thing to do but I am very happy that Britain is willing to help these people, they are people just like yourself, infact probably better I am guessing from reading your previous ramblings.

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Dan

Dan

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29/10/2010 12:57 pm

Just had a look on right move. There are lots of places to rent for £400 per week

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Anonymous

Anonymous

29/10/2010 1:28 pm

Dan: I am a housing officer and i clear just about £1,600 per month, we have a very young child and my partner had a relatively low paid job with poor conditions (employer unwilling to negotiate family friendly hours) and so now stays at home looking after the kid. Where would that leave us then?

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Anonymous

Anonymous

29/10/2010 2:02 pm

That would leave you needing to get a better job or move to a cheaper area. It shouldn't be the state's responsibility to look after your wife and child - it should be yours.

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Sidney Webb

Sidney Webb

Location: South East England
Posts: 224

29/10/2010 4:07 pm

Anonymous - following your logic, and refering to the Evening Standard recognisation that even a couple earning £80kpa find housing unaffordable, nobody earning below such a sum should live locally and/or have children.

In one action that would remove London as a world-class city for it would grind to a halt. Rolled out with national levels, the same would occur to the UK.

Unless wages support an individual to house and care for themselves, have a family and grow old, then there needs to be taxation to fund a welfare system to make up for the low pay.

You can have low pay with high taxation and benefits or high pay without, but you can not have both annonymous.

Stand back and see the bigger picture, then realise that there is a world outside your walls. That world supported you, and continues to do so - you have no right to prevent it supporting others.

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marty21

marty21

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29/10/2010 4:18 pm

London needs more places with affordable rents, not less, and not set at 80% of the LHA, or market rent. There are plenty of people on low incomes in London who somehow manage to survive (no idea how) they do the jobs that many people wouldn't dream of doing. They clean offices on the minimum wage, work in cafes, carry out child care jobs, housekeeping etc

if they can't afford to live in London, then they will move - or only be tempted to stay if wages increase (which might be a good thing tbf)

What would make more sense, and be more 'fair' would be to cap private rents - not cap HB levels, surely landlords should also take their share of the pain?

Private landlords are not going to voluntarily cut their rents to HB capped levels - they need to be forced to by legislation. Capping rent levels will bring down the HB bill.

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