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Comment on: The year of reckoning
Why is that Alpha? Because you believe you are intellectually superior in some way, to interact with us? You come across to me like you have your head too far up your own rear end. You're certainly well read, but so well read that you seem to have spent more time with your nose in books, than in the real world.
Ghettoisation and division among ANY living things (I include the animal kingdom) will never work long term. In fact, it seems always to have been a human specialism, and creates more problems than it solves. Your counterparts of old in their urban villas found that out, when dysentry and cholera began to make its way across to them from the poverty stricken slum across the street...
Then you have crime, low aspiration and substance abuse (Gin wasn't called 'mother's ruin' back in the day, for nothing...)
All factors of ghettoisation. Look at it in reverse - by your reckoning grouping like with like is the best way to go. All fine and dandy if you have a group of folk who are well off, and educated, and happy with thier lives; what a lovely little ghetto that would be... But what of ghettos made up of the 'lowest' social stratum, who tend to comprise of the most marginalised people in society. Those who are low income, unemployed, low aspiration, lesser educated (whether through social status or own volition) substance abusing, disabled, long term sick, old/pensionable age... If you have ever lived (like myself) in an area chock full of people like this, you will feel the oppression in the atmosphere. Not to say that most are not good people, decent people; they are, just trying to get by. But the pain and negativity amongst them is tangible. Crime is higher too. Do you know that every single young man I grew up with on my ex-council estate street (we're talking about 10 young men here) got himself involved in drug dealing as a teenager? One of them was shot dead recently, another had his house raided and did jail time, yet another is in and out of jail constantly for drugs, driving and gang offences.
This isn't just my old street by the way - this is THE NORM for my estate, and ones like it. Pretty much every street on the estate is like this. I won'teven take the dog for a walk because the atmosphere is that horrible.
This, my friend, is what happens when you ghettoise the most vulnerable and marginalised people in society. I am one of the lucky ones. Despite being born into this background, I was academically gifted and, once my current temporary work/home problems pass on I still have a bright future, and qualifications coming out of my ears (including 3 languages)
Yet the greatest barriers I faced in my climb upward were psychological/emotional, not financial.
Unless you have lived the reality of ghettoisation at the lowest level of society, Alpha, and how easy it is for innocent boys and girls to fall into the wrong way of life, if they do not put in concerted effort (like myself) to avoid it, surrounded as they are by crime, despair and stigma, you really have no business either commenting on, or encouraging it to continue.
As for 'different' people mingling - despite having an IQ through the rafters I grew up 'mingling' with people of every walk of life, and every ability. I went to normal schools you see, because my parents couldn't afford grammar or private education. And guess what? I lost nothing about myself, but gained a great deal. I am still me, regardless, but perhaps a less pretentious me than I might have been had I been sheltered in a ghetto of intellectuals... It made me a better person Alpha, and I can get on with anyone. You can throw me into any social group on the planet, and both I, and they are fine. Perhaps you should try this mingling thing... ;))
Your Bagwa mirror is the wrong way up by the way - the three lines should be at the top... I believe it's inauspicious to have it any other way. -
Comment on: The year of reckoning
Why is that Alpha? Because you believe you are intellectually superior in some way, to interact with us? You come across to me like you have your head too far up your own rear end. You're certainly well read, but so well read that you seem to have spent more time with your nose in books, than in the real world.
Ghettoisation and division among ANY living things (I include the animal kingdom) will never work long term. In fact, it seems always to have been a human specialism, and creates more problems than it solves. Your counterparts of old in their urban villas found that out, when dysentry and cholera began to make its way across to them from the poverty stricken slum across the street...
Then you have crime, low aspiration and substance abuse (Gin wasn't called 'mother's ruin' back in the day, for nothing...)
All factors of ghettoisation. Look at it in reverse - by your reckoning grouping like with like is the best way to go. All fine and dandy if you have a group of folk who are well off, and educated, and happy with thier lives; what a lovely little ghetto that would be... But what of ghettos made up of the 'lowest' social stratum, who tend to comprise of the most marginalised people in society. Those who are low income, unemployed, low aspiration, lesser educated (whether through social status or own volition) substance abusing, disabled, long term sick, old/pensionable age... If you have ever lived (like myself) in an area chock full of people like this, you will feel the oppression in the atmosphere. Not to say that most are not good people, decent people; they are, just trying to get by. But the pain and negativity amongst them is tangible. Crime is higher too. Do you know that every single young man I grew up with on my ex-council estate street (we're talking about 10 young men here) got himself involved in drug dealing as a teenager? One of them was shot dead recently, another had his house raided and did jail time, yet another is in and out of jail constantly for drugs, driving and gang offences.
This isn't just my old street by the way - this is THE NORM for my estate, and ones like it. Pretty much every street on the estate is like this. I won'teven take the dog for a walk because the atmosphere is that horrible.
This, my friend, is what happens when you ghettoise the most vulnerable and marginalised people in society. I am one of the lucky ones. Despite being born into this background, I was academically gifted and, once my current temporary work/home problems pass on I still have a bright future, and qualifications coming out of my ears (including 3 languages)
Yet the greatest barriers I faced in my climb upward were psychological/emotional, not financial.
Unless you have lived the reality of ghettoisation at the lowest level of society, Alpha, and how easy it is for innocent boys and girls to fall into the wrong way of life, if they do not put in concerted effort (like myself) to avoid it, surrounded as they are by crime, despair and stigma, you really have no business either commenting on, or encouraging it to continue.
As for 'different' people mingling - despite having an IQ through the rafters I grew up 'mingling' with people of every walk of life, and every ability. I went to normal schools you see, because my parents couldn't afford grammar or private education. And guess what? I lost nothing about myself, but gained a great deal. I am still me, regardless, but perhaps a less pretentious me than I might have been had I been sheltered in a ghetto of intellectuals... It made me a better person Alpha, and I can get on with anyone. You can throw me into any social group on the planet, and both I, and they are fine. Perhaps you should try this mingling thing... ;))
Your Bagwa mirror is the wrong way up by the way - the three lines should be at the top... I believe it's inauspicious to have it any other way. -
Comment on: Young people to be restricted to two year tenancies
They say you can tell a lot about how civilised a country is by how it treats its children, and young adults. This country fails dismally, and I cannot wait to finish my degree, and take my professional skills and 3 foreign languages elsewhere. I'm reaching the point where I would advise any young adult to do the same thing, because it seems that if you're under 35 in this country, there's nothing down for you...
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Comment on: Young people to be restricted to two year tenancies
They say you can tell a lot about how civilised a country is by how it treats its children, and young adults. This country fails dismally, and I cannot wait to finish my degree, and take my professional skills and 3 foreign languages elsewhere. I'm reaching the point where I would advise any young adult to do the same thing, because it seems that if you're under 35 in this country, there's nothing down for you...
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Comment on: MP tables motion against shared room rate
Well I will be losing my flat very soon as my landlady has turned into a venomous harridan, and is threatening court action and eviction. Not only have I been put into two months of arrears due to appealing dodgy Atos medical result/council stopping my housing benefit until assessment rate came through, she's angry with me for querying a rent increase a few months ago (the notice used was found to be illegal) but she also knows I can't afford to stay here on the shared rate, and so I will have to leave. I've been settled here for almost two years, and everything was going fine for me until the new government started tinkering about with everybody's incomes and housing back in April/May.
Even though the council have almost reassesed me totally and I should receive the backpay in the next one-two weeks, to hand over to the harridan, she is still being nasty and pushing for court action to evict me altogether. In some ways, having seen her true colours, getting out of here might not be such a bad thing...
Still though, I'm in the midst of studying for a degree (to get back on track to work) and moving home is going to take place right in the middle of the semester. I'm a disabled student and I really don't need this right now. It seems hell is a special place reserved for people like my landlady, because I can't see how anybody with an ounce of humanity and common sense could still push for court action just to be spiteful, knowing full well that the arrears are going to be paid within a fortnight.
Have to laugh at the way they're including part time and low paid workers on HB in this shared rate farce as well. Didn't Lord Freud say that the main rationale behind this was to ensure that those who aren't working have to make the same choices on housing as their working counteraprts? Bit of a contradiction or what?! A load of hot air! They were going to bring this in, in 1996, up to age 59, but it was only the General Election of 1997 that stopped them. There was no 'banking crisis' back then! I'm sure the ministers responsible for the homelessness and trauma of thousands of young adults this winter will get on very well with my landlady when they all pop their clogs and head for that other, rather warm, place....
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